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Ne vidim šta si sporno našao u mojoj izjavi a ja pogotovu ne vidim ništa sporno u tvojoj...
Jedino mi nije jasno tih 45 godina zadojenosti, jer npr. od partizanskog vremena je prošlo 65 godina a ja mogu da nečim budem zadojena tek 30 tako da ako ti nemaš 45 godina - nije mi ta računica jasna...
Nego, gotovo da se za sve - dakle - slažemo (sem sa osobom xy koja mene optužuje za mržnju a onda mi u skladu sa tim preporučuje antisemitističnu knjigu za čitanje (za koju inače znam već 18 od svojih skromnih 31) a za koju ja - kao osoba koja je protiv svakog vida segregacije - pak kao preporuku imam antidot:
http://serbianforum.org/domace-knji...-o-protokolima-sionskih-mudraca-v-ajzner.html)
A sad ćemo se malo baviti citiranjem jednog Jevrejina koji je preživeo konc logore tokom II SR - Elie Weisel-a :
A za kraj - kada sledeće bude svačiji postulat bitija - sve će biti u najboljem redu. (Ovo važi i za ''indijanca'' koji bi se usudio da se ismava ovom nobelovcu - kao što je prethodno Solženjicinu, Rakiću, Soluncima, Bogu...) u stilu:
Ne vidim šta si sporno našao u mojoj izjavi a ja pogotovu ne vidim ništa sporno u tvojoj...
Jedino mi nije jasno tih 45 godina zadojenosti, jer npr. od partizanskog vremena je prošlo 65 godina a ja mogu da nečim budem zadojena tek 30 tako da ako ti nemaš 45 godina - nije mi ta računica jasna...
Nego, gotovo da se za sve - dakle - slažemo (sem sa osobom xy koja mene optužuje za mržnju a onda mi u skladu sa tim preporučuje antisemitističnu knjigu za čitanje (za koju inače znam već 18 od svojih skromnih 31) a za koju ja - kao osoba koja je protiv svakog vida segregacije - pak kao preporuku imam antidot:
http://serbianforum.org/domace-knji...-o-protokolima-sionskih-mudraca-v-ajzner.html)
A sad ćemo se malo baviti citiranjem jednog Jevrejina koji je preživeo konc logore tokom II SR - Elie Weisel-a :
I - odlomak iz njegove knjige ''NOĆ'':No human race is superior; no religious faith is inferior. All collective judgments are wrong. Only racists make them"
"The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference."
"There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there must never be a time when we fail to protest."
"I swore never to be silent whenever and wherever human beings endure suffering and humiliation.
We must always take sides.
Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.
Sometimes we must interfere. When human lives are endangered, when human dignity is in jeopardy, national borders and sensitivities become irrelevant.
Wherever men and women are persecuted because of their race, religion, or political views, that place must - at that moment - become the center of the universe."
"I've been fightingn my entire adult life for men and women everywhere to be equal and to be different.
But there is one right I would not grant anyone. And that is the right to be indifferent."
“Indifference is the sign of sickness, a sickness of the soul more contagious than any other.”
Indifference, to me, is the epitome of evil.
"Humanity would never tolerate it"
''Because of indifference, one dies before one actually dies.''
"When a person doesn’t have gratitude, something is missing in his or her humanity. A person can almost be defined by his or her attitude toward gratitude."
"“Life belongs to man, but the meaning of life is beyond him.”"
"One person of integrity can make a difference."
''Our obligation is to give meaning to life and in doing so to overcome the passive, indifferent life.
"There is divine beauty in learning...
To learn means to accept the postulate that life did not begin at my birth.
Others have been here before me, and I walk in their footsteps.
The books I have read were composed by generations of fathers and sons, mothers and daughters, teachers and disciples.
I am the sum total of their experiences, their quests. And so are you."
"“Remember also that it is not knowledge but the learning for knowledge that makes for a complete, accomplished man.
Such a man does not stand still but perseveres in the face of adversity, nor does he remain untouched by the pain cause by absence. On the contrary, he recognizes himself in each cry, uttered or repressed, in the smallest rift, in the most pressing need.”"
"Not to transmit an experience is to betray it."
"for the dead and the living, we must bear witness."
"For the survivor who chooses to testify, it is clear: his duty is to bear witness for the dead and for the living.
He has no right to deprive future generations of a past that belongs to our collective memory.
To forget would be not only dangerous but offensive; to forget the dead would be akin to killing them a second time."
"Which is worse? Killing with hate or killing without hate?"
"To forget the dead would be akin to killing them a second time."
"Human suffering anywhere concerns men and women everywhere." (ja bih dodala SHOULD)
"Then came the march past the victims. The two men were no longer alive. Their tangs were hanging out,
swollen and bluish. But the third rope was still moving: the child, too light, was still breathing...
And so he remained for more than half an hour, lingering between life and death, writhing before our eyes.
And we were forced to look at him at close range. He was still alive when I passed him. His tang was still
red, his eyes not yet extinguished.
Behind me, I heard the same man asking:
"For God's sake, where is God?"
And from within me, I heard a voice answer:
"Where He is? This is where--hanging here from this gallows..."
~ pa potom opet...
"Wherever men and women are persecuted because of their race, religion, or political views, that place must - at that moment - become the center of the universe."
"Most people think that shadows follow, precede or surround beings or objects. The truth is that they also surround words, ideas, desires, deeds, impulses and memories."
"There are victories of the soul and spirit. Sometimes, even if you lose, you win. "
"For in the end, it is all about memory, its sources and its magnitude, and, of course, its consequences."
"God is God because he remembers."
Because I remember, I despair. Because I remember, I have the duty to reject despair.
A za kraj - kada sledeće bude svačiji postulat bitija - sve će biti u najboljem redu. (Ovo važi i za ''indijanca'' koji bi se usudio da se ismava ovom nobelovcu - kao što je prethodno Solženjicinu, Rakiću, Soluncima, Bogu...) u stilu:
A naravoučenije je:"They are committing the greatest indignity human beings can inflict on one another: telling people who have suffered excruciating pain and loss that their pain and loss were illusions.
jer
Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds.
VEĆ:
"Ultimately, the only power to which man should aspire is that which he exercises over himself."
jer - naravno -
"One person of integrity can make a difference."
P.S.:
"Whoever survives a test, whatever it may be, must tell the story. That is his duty."
"I don't want my past to become anyone else's future." jer -
"Better that one heart be broken a thousand times in the retelling, he has decided, if it means that a thousand other hearts need not be broken at all."
"Peace is our gift to each other." - a ja bih rekla - dužnost - u smislu - duunog poštovanja yes3 ;-)
"But because of his telling, many who did not believe have come to believe, and some who did not care have come to care. He tells the story, out of infinite pain, partly to honor the dead, but also to warn the living - to warn the living that it could happen again and that it must never happen again. Better than one heart be broken a thousand times in the retelling, he has decided, if it means that a thousand other hearts need not be broken at all."
"I have learned two lessons in my life: first, there are no sufficient literary, psychological, or historical answers to human tragedy, only moral ones. Second, just as despair can come to one another only from other human beings, hope, too, can be given to one only by other human beings."
"“Only fanatics — in religion as well as in politics — can find a meaning in someone else’s death.”
"“Just as there are predatory birds, so there are predatory ideas: I came under their spell. . . .
Just as the survivors say that no one will ever understand the victims, what I must tell you is that you will never understand the executioners.”"
''But the forces of evil have not abdicated.
The malevolent ghosts of hatred are resurgent with a fury and a boldness that are as astounding as they are nauseating: ethnic conflicts, religious riots, anti-Semitic incidents here, there, and everywhere.
What is wrong with these morally degenerate people that they abuse their freedom, so recently won?''
''Hope is like peace. It is not a gift from God. It is a gift only we can give one another.''
''Mankind must remember that peace is not God's gift to his creatures; peace is our gift to each other.''
''Once you bring life into the world, you must protect it. We must protect it by changing the world.''
We have to go into the despair and go beyond it, by working and doing for somebody else, by using it for something else.
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