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Interfejs za istinu srpskih nemoralnih lekara!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef2v6heIrLA&feature=related


INTERNET TRBAMO DA ZOVEMO U SRBIJI INTERFEJS ZA ISTINU
The Internet, the PC and mobile phones have made dramatic changes to society during the past 25 years. Is the way new ICT technologies
are launched really changed during this period? How adaptive are interfaces between user and system? Today, we struggle with the same fundamental concerns as researchers Nora and Minc did in 1978 ́s `l’Information de la Société`: how can we use this technology to bring about positive changes in our society and economy with a minimal negative impact? Since the early 1990s many governments all over the world, including the Dutch, have initiated discussions, debates and reports about the use of advanced means of communication, information and network technologies. This dissertation examines the underlying developments in society and technology, the questions and suppositions that have arisen along the way, and the various studies that are being carried out worldwide.
Men use tools to help themselves and each other.


RAZLOZI GUBIKA SOFTVERA I PODATAKA NA RACUNARIMA, DA BI SHVATILI SLICNU POJAVU I U DRUSTVU, PA I U MEDICINI. NEZNANJE JE NAJVECI RAZLOGhttp://www.buzzle.com/editorials/8-28-2006-106793.asp


ДА СРБИ КОНАЧНО СХВАТЕ ИСТИНУ О КРУПЦИЈИ У СИСТЕМИМА http://lovehateubuntu.blogspot.com/2008/04/why-windows-has-viruses-and-ubuntu-or.html


100% ИСТИНА О "ИНТЕЛЕКТУАЛНОЈ СВОЈИНИ" http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/11/windows7/

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НОВЕ ТЕХНОЛОГИЈЕ, А НЕ ЗАСТАРЕЛОСТ И ГЛУПОСТ!!!http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:Iy25dZvPabEJ:www.medianetvlaanderen.be/content/user/File/091210%2520Workshop%2520VI%25203D/3D%2520IPTV%2520-%2520Networking%2520technologies%2520and%2520impact%2520Donny%2520Tytgat.pdf+3D+IP+TV&hl=en&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESgI0Ahydpr5uvnLWfWh6ULrGeVp4EnMAPYq3A9k45WLk1EZqlh8PpAUh7MCFruyQAaa2QbLREL6BMqPw7MiPQjwwp4c8w2GxaDDUu773ZMsj5JwAxOx7uG5F9SpEagR85mj3o1m&sig=AHIEtbTLpOzGk5h0BGnQiNQjpl_zbOkYAg&pli=1

НЕМРАЛНИ МЕДИЦИНСКИ РАДНИЦИ УБИЈАЈУ НЕКАЖЊЕНО И НЕ МОЖЕМО У 21 ВЕКУ ДА ДОКАЖЕМО ИСТИНУ.....

ПРАВА ИСТИНА И РАД, А НЕ ЛАЖИ И ГЛУПОСТ, ИНТЕРНЕТ ЈЕ ИНТЕРФЕЈС ЗА ИСТИНУ!!! http://www.marketnews.ca/LatestNewsHeadlines/CES2011:panasonicWillEmphasize3D,IPTVin2011.html


И ОНИ СУ СХВАТИЛИ ИСТИНУ САМО НАШЕ НЕЗНАЛИЦЕ НЕ МОГУ!!! http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=9655598

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СРПСКЕ НЕЗНАЛИЦЕ МОРАЈУ ДА САЗНАЈУ МНОГЕ СТАВРИ ДА БИ ПРОМИНИЛИ РАЗМИШЉАЊЕ О ВИРТУАЛНОМ СВЕТУ http://www.btinternet.com/~ian.pearson/
Europe, 83% of the kids and 37% of the adults is online.
Together, they use 70% of the Internet traffic [eMarketer]. In 2004, the e-conomy expects to reach a turn over of 1.1 to 4 trillion. [Gartner, Forrester]Those e- and m-commerce summit the balance with approximately 113 billon wireless.[Visa-Boston Cons] Of that result, 4,1 billion Euros go to the pick pockets of the ‘adult content industry’ [Datamonitor] and 55 million to the exploiters of 67.611 WiFi hot spots. [ABI] The active network components like routers, switches, servers, basis stations, are good for 525 billon. [Synergy] So, Cyberworld isn’t a depressed developing country.
Networks and computers support and replace information processes of both man and machine, without much ethical objection.
НАУЧИЋУ ВАС ШТА ЈЕ ВИРТАЛНА РЕАЛНОСТ


ВРЕМЕ ЈЕ ЗА РЕДИЗАЈНИРЕЊЕ, А НЕ ЗА ГЛУПИРАЊЕ И УБИЈАЊЕ НЕЗНАЊЕМ http://www.exchangemagazine.com/morningpost/2011/week4/Wednesday/012605.htm

ДОКАЗАО САМ ДА САМ У ПРАВУ 100% БИХЕЈВИОРАЛНИ ПРИНЦИП!!!
 
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АСОЦИЈАЦИЈА !!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9OpxV0qArk&NR=1


Apparently we find ourselves at the edge of science with a theme into which broader and more in-depth research should be carried out to gain more insight into the area of tension between (the behaviour of) man, technology and society, en the effects of communication technology, which has been changing at top speed in the past decades. The knowledge related to this technology is spread among specific interscientific communities, such as Human Computer Interaction, Tele and data communications, Computer Supported Cooperative Work and Artificial Intelligence. And furthermore among cognitive studies, (information) ergonomics, industrial psychology, group dynamics, communication studies, anthropology,philosophy, social psychology, organisational psychology, sociology and law (onaccount of matters such as copyright, identity, privacy and digital government: inthis case private law, public law and international law, including tax law, information law and right to vote). Optimum use of this knowledge is hampered by theconsiderable fragmentation between the various sciences which – in my experience do not have much contact with one another.


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СРПСКА ВИРТУАЛНА ИСТИНА, ПРОДАЈУ НАМ ГЛУПОСТИ КАО ИНТЕЛЕКТУАЛНУ СВОЈИНУ!!!

ДРАГИ НАШ ТОМИЦА МИЛОСАВЛЈЕВИЋ ЈЕ ПОДНЕО ОСТАВКУ!!! НИЈЕ ЧОВЕК ВИШЕ МОГАО ДА СЕ БОРИ ПРОТИВ БОЛЕСНОГ ДРУШТВА!!! ДЕМОКРАТСКИ 100%


СПОРА И ТЕШКА ПЕРЦЕПЦИЈА ИСТИНЕ У СРБИЈИ. МОРАМО СЕ НАУЧИТИ ДА БРЖЕ, ТАЧНИЈЕ И ПРЕЦИЗНИЈЕ РАЗМИШЉАМО, КАКО НАША ДЕЛА НЕБИ ОСТАВЉАЛА СТРАШНЕ И ТУЖНЕ ПОСЛЕДИЦЕ НА ДИВАН, НЕБЕСКИ НАРОД http://galaksija.blogspot.com/2005/03/percepcija.html


Bruce Lipton - Biologija percepcije i vjerovanja


КОЈИ ЈЕ НАЈБОЉИ ОПЕРАТИВНИ СИСТЕМ ЗА НЕТУК РАЧУНАРЕ, А И ШИРЕ!!! LINUX UBUNTU I NJEGOVI DERIVATI ....http://lifehacker.com/5471394/five-best-netbook-operating-systems

ДО КАДА ЋЕ СРБИ ЖИВЕТИ У ЗАБЛУДИ!!!

SVE SE SVODI NA KONTROLU UMA. КОРУПЦИЈА ЉУДСКЕ ДУШЕ !!!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vfr-wznUVQA
 
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БРАВО ТОМИЦЕ, ДОКАЗАО СИ ДА СИ НАЈМОРАЛНИЈИ ЧОВЕК У СРПСКОЈ МЕДИЦИНИ ДО САДА!!! http://srb.time.mk/cluster/c02e9e0a0c/tomica-dao-ostavku-premijer-prihvatio.html
ПОТПУНО МОРАЛНО И НОРМАЛНО, СВАКА ВАМ ЧАСТ, ОСТАЛЕ БИТАНГЕ НЕКА ТРУНУ У ПАКЛУ!!!
ТОМИЦА МИЛОСАВЉЕВИЋ, ЗА РАЗЛИКУ ОД ДРУГИХ ЈЕ ДОКАЗАО ДА СЕ ПОНАША КАО ЧОВЕК!!!


У СРБИЈИ СУ МНОГО ПРЕ ТОМИЦЕ ТРЕБАЛИ ДА ПОДНЕСЗ ОСТАВКУ, ПОСТАЋЕМО "НЕБЕСКИ НАРОД" ЈЕР СУ ЉУДИ ГРАМЗИВИ И ВОЛЕ САМО СЕБЕ!!! НИСУ СЕ УСУДИЛИ НА ТАЈ МОРАЛАН И ЉУДСКИ ЧИН!!! СВКА ТИ ЧАСТ ТОМИЦЕ И ЈА БИХ ОЧИНИО ИСТО, МАДА ЈЕ ШТЕТА НЕНАДОКНАДИВА, ТИ СИ НЕВИНА ЖРТВА НЕЗНАЛИЦА И УБИЦА СРБИЈЕ!!!! ДЕМОКРАТСКИ 1000%



СВИ СМО МИ ЖРТВЕНИ ЈАРЦИ У НЕЧИЈЕМ БОЛЕСНОМ ИНТЕРЕСУ!!!! http://sr.wikipedia.org/sr-el/%D0%96%D1%80%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8_%D1%98%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%86

СХВАТИЋЕ!!!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG-OonMVElw

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НАУЧНИ ПОГЛЕД НА ДУШУ!!!http://krishna.org/the-scientific-theory-of-the-soul/
The Soul—A Scientific Overview

For many centuries the soul has been the subject of much philosophical, metaphysical and religious speculation. This speculation has left many ancient questions that remain largely ignored by modern science. As examples, consider the following questions:

Does the soul exist?

Is reincarnation possible?

Can the soul survive bodily death?

Can the soul exist separate from the body?

If there is an immortal soul, what kind of thing is it?

What is the relationship between the soul and the body?

Does a soul have existence before birth or before conception?

After death, might compensation for the inequities of life be visited on the soul?

Is man endowed with three kinds of souls: The rational, the irrational common to man and other animals and the vegetative, related to growth, inherited traits and evolution?

The scientific method compels us to not make hypotheses about alleged phenomena or other concepts that lack experimental evidence. However, applying a scientific approach towards the understanding of both the meanings and possibilities implicit in concepts referred to by "soul" can prove rewarding.

New scientific developments have advanced our understanding of how computational processes take place. This makes it possible to gain new insights into questions that have arisen, since antiquity, when thinking about the concept of the soul. We can now make scientifically correct quantitative theories and mechanistic models that address such questions. This understanding comes from a different direction than what has been explored in the past. Our results fit into the existing framework of philosophical, metaphysical and religious beliefs about the human soul in a new way. A modern definition of “soul” and a scientific approach will enable us to see what a soul might be and how it might work. We will attempt to answer the nine questions above in a new context.

In this paper we start with a new definition of what the meaning of “soul” might be. Then, based on that definition we will explain in detail what the soul is made of, how it works, how it might survive us in death, and much more. All of these conclusions will be obviously true to any person who makes the effort to understand what is written here. There is just one proviso, and that is the necessity of understanding the concepts about information and information processes that have been discovered through familiarity with computers and with what it is that computers can do. Geometry starts with simple definitions, axioms and postulates and proceeds to prove ever more complex theorems whose truth might not have been obvious a priori. For all such theorems, the proofs must rely on the underlying assumptions. If we assume the validity of the axioms, postulates and theorems used in the proof of a new theorem, and assuming that the proof is done correctly, we can assume that the new theorem is true.

With regard to the soul, we do not wish to proceed in a rigorous, Euclidean fashion, (even if we knew how) however our approach is similar in one respect. We make certain assumptions and then give an objective and simple definition of the human soul. We will then try to convince the reader that our definition corresponds to the common notion of what the human soul is, based on the following criteria: The definition should make sense for all aspects of the human soul for which we have objective, scientific observations. Once we have a definition that meets the objective criteria, we will show that such a soul can have many of the other properties that have been attributed to the soul despite the lack of objective evidence. The approach is to define something in a straightforward manner and then to elaborate on the properties of what has been defined. What may be controversial is that we shall call the thing that we have defined, “soul”. We believe that the version of the soul defined herein covers many possibilities for differing definitions of human soul in the sense that it gives plausible explanations for most of the properties and possibilities of the soul that have been discussed in the literature.

How could a new definition of the human soul be in good agreement with prior definitions? Every different concept of the human soul must differ in some respects from other concepts. The definition here is perhaps much more different than the average, but it seems to capture the essence of many views of the nature of the soul. Our effort is not to decide on what properties the human soul has or ought to have, but rather to see how various properties could be true of the soul, once we have an understanding of a plausible model of the soul.

At this point, we need to define our use of a word that represents the key concept; essential to the understanding of what follows. The word is “informational”, and the definition is: Pertaining to the arrangement of things that represent discrete, digital information, independent of what the things are. Informational implies that there is meaning associated with the information, and that the information is in a form amenable to being used, communicated or modified by an information process (basically some form of generalized computer). Such digital information can be static (so called Read Only Memory, printed literature, or music on a CD) or dynamic (engaged in information processing, sensing, control or communication, such as the memory contents of a working computer or music being played from a CD). Dynamic digital information is engaged in an information process (computation) where as a consequence some of the digital information may be changed. A computer, built out of silicon chips, is not an informational construct. The reason is that although the physical parts of a computer do information processing, the information represented by the parts themselves are fixed and cannot themselves be processed and changed. The digital information being processed by the computer is an informational construct. It is possible to have a computer that is purely informational; if we write a simulator for a computer that runs on another ordinary computer, then that simulated computer is an informational construct, but the ordinary computer is not.

Before we go into the detail about the soul, as we shall define it, we will mention some conclusions revealed by our study. In general, the conclusions are not about what is true today, but about what could be true in the future regarding the nine questions posed earlier:

· What is herein defined as the soul certainly does exist.

· Reincarnation is possible, but not in ways previously imagined.

· The soul may, in partial or nearly total form, survive the death of the body.

· The partial or nearly total soul may be able to exist separate from the body.

· The soul is potentially an immortal informational construct; thus a part of physics.

· Normally, the body is the abode of much of the soul, but not necessarily so.

· Certain parts of the soul do exist before birth or conception.

· Justice after death implies that a soul can continue in existence, more or less intact, even after death. Today, only fragments of a soul can survive the death of a person. This may change sometime in the future.

· It does seem that the soul does come in the very three forms mentioned in the EB. We will explain this in more detail.

We must caution the reader that the nine points above will likely be misunderstood until reading further. For example, we are certain that the laws of physics do not prohibit the survival of a person’s soul, largely intact, after the death of that person’s body. However, we do not believe that such an event has yet occurred.

Our definition of a particular human’s soul is going to be much like the definition of a particular human’s body. While most humans start out with a complete and normal body, some do not. Additionally, a person may be maimed and still survive as a human. An amputee may not possess a complete and normal human body, but he or she is still a human being. Our bodies are normally made up of arms, legs, kidneys, brain cells, a head full of hair, tonsils, etc. A bald man, someone with no kidneys, a quadruple amputee or a paraplegic is still a human. In order to understand our definition of “souls” we need to understand that a soul is made up of many parts, that not all souls in human bodies have all of the parts that other souls have and that parts of a humans soul can exist outside of that human’s body just as one persons kidney can be removed and can remain alive, disconnected from the rest of the body, long enough to be transplanted into another person. Further, just as a tissue culture taken from a person, such as Helen Lane, may continue to live in laboratories for decades, parts of a human soul may continue to exist and even function outside of the human body. Finally, our bodies do not disappear with our death. Similarly our DNA can survive our death and remain intact and accessible. Some of our DNA along with many other fragments of our soul may survive in our children, we will show various other ways in which parts of a human soul can also survive after the death of its body.

We are now ready to give our definition of “soul” followed by a paraphrased (in light of our new definition) third paragraph from the quote, at the beginning of this paper, taken from the Encyclopaedia Britannica, MDCCLXXI (1771 AD), Volume III, pages 618-619.

The soul in every living thing is the informational parts of that thing that are purposefully engaged in the informational aspects of its ability to be conceived or germinate, grow with cells differentiating, grow further in size, move, make use of sensory information, react reflexively, learn, behave instinctually, think intelligently, communicate with other beings, teach, reproduce, evolve and in general carry out informational interactions starting with the combining of parental DNA, informational interactions with itself, with things external to itself through senses, actions, constructions, creations and communications, and with its progeny through contributed DNA. A soul can learn from experience, from reflection or by being taught by other souls. In turn, a soul can teach other souls.

Thus the soul is an immaterial substance and its primary operations of willing and thinking have not only no connection with the known properties of the elements of body, but seem plainly inconsistent with some of a body's most essential qualities. The soul is an informational entity, which is constructed out of the states and the arrangements of material things. Yet it is immaterial, in the sense that the particular choice of material, whose states and arrangements represent the bits of digital information, is not of great consequence. If the entire informational structure of a soul was transferred intact into a suitable new host, it could continue in existence largely as the same soul.

First we will define a dynamic soul. Second we will define a static soul.

A dynamic soul is just what we normally think of as the soul of a living, awake and active being. It is something that seems to inhabit a living body that is the essence of the ongoing intellectual and emotional activity of that person. It is the soul, with the help of the brain and the body, that contemplates, reflects, feels, thinks, learns, communicates, decides and commands the body to do its bidding. It is the home of processes that implement our ethical, moral and religious convictions. In our view, the dynamic soul makes use of the brain in doing its thinking and also makes use of the body to manipulate things in the real world, to receive information through the senses and to communicate with other souls.

A static soul is simply digital information that is similar to a combination of computer programs and computer data. A static soul cannot be understood without understanding the exact processes that interpret and process the information that corresponds to computer programs, and understanding the nature and intent of the part that corresponds to computer data, which is certainly complexly encoded in some kind of database like set of structures.

When your computer comes to life with Microsoft Windows and various programs doing various things, what is going on from the informational point of view, is similar to the concept of what is going on in a dynamic soul. When you buy a CD-ROM that contains various programs and data that you can use with your computer, from an informational point of view that CD is similar to the concept of part of a static soul.

The dynamic soul is the consequence of a set of computer like programs that are running in the brain-body; the dynamic soul is in control of the body in the same general way that a computer might be in control of a robot. If one could extract a copy of a soul from its brain-body, it would make no sense without also knowing the detailed structure and logic of brain-bodies in general and of its particular brain-body. Similarly, if one is given a binary copy of a machine code computer program, it cannot be understood without also understanding the exact nature of the machine and operating systems that are capable of running that code. It is quite possible (but perhaps extraordinarily difficult) that the most likely design and structure of the machine or computer capable of running the code could be deciphered from a study and analysis of the code.

When a program is running in a computer, it makes use of the hardware and operating systems of the computer in order to run properly. The running of a program is the evolution of the program and its data in time. While it is running, we may think of the program as being in a dynamic state. If we pause the computer, so that the program comes to an instantaneous stop, ready to continue at the press of a key, we would still say that the program is in a dynamic state. In actual fact, a dynamic program running a billion instructions per second could be said to be at a dead stop a billion times each second.

A program is in the static state when it has been rendered inoperable by being translated and copied onto some medium, such as onto a floppy disk that is stored for future use. At some time in the future, the program can be reinserted into the computer and caused to continue from the exact point where it had stopped. It also can be brought to life in a different computer so long as the different computer is sufficiently compatible with the original one. Thus the difference between static and dynamic is only a matter of degree. It is no more than, in this case, the difference between being able to take the next step in a few pico-seconds, or in a few hours or a few millennia.

A single picture frame from a motion picture film is a static representation of a movie at one instant in time. It’s as though the world in the movie was brought to a stop. To understand the meaning of a snapshot in relation to a movie, we need to know the position of the snapshot within the sequences of snapshots in the movie. Such a snapshot is a lot like the state of a program and its data stored on a floppy. However, the program on the floppy is complete while the snapshot is only a partial 2 dimensional representation of a 3 dimensional real world. Of course the program on the floppy can only come back to life if it is loaded into a compatible computer.

If we could capture some of what there is to a human soul, at one moment in time, we would have a snapshot of part of a soul. Of course, a real snapshot leaves a lot out. It is two-dimensional and deals only with what is visible to the camera. Looking at a single snapshot, we can’t necessarily tell how things were changing. On the other hand, our definition of a static soul is that we capture, at one point in time, everything about that soul, including all of the information needed to make it dynamic.

The most common example of a natural static soul is a seed. It has all of the informational aspects of the plant that it can grow into. While static, a seed can remain viable for decades. Then, when put into an appropriate nurturing environment, it can start to grow into whatever it is destined to be. A seed is similar to a floppy disk that has a software virus on it. It is static until it is placed in a nurturing environment, i.e. moist, fertile earth for the seed, a computer for the computer virus.

Assume that we want to solve a very hard mathematical problem. Factoring a very large integer (hundreds of digits) is such a problem that can be broken down into parts. One hypothetical way to do this would be to create a computer virus which contains the number to be factored, and some factoring software. The algorithm could involve a probabilistic search. Once in the computer, the program could make copies of itself and spread the virus. The descendents of the original virus are very unlikely to search the same space as any of their ancestors as there are simple processes that allow a program to come up with a random number. The likelihood that any descendant will come up with a random number that is the same as some other descendant’s can be made arbitrarily small. Eventually, one of the descendants of the original virus might solve the problem. In this example, the every copy of virus has a Soul. It is the informational aspects that allow it to operate, reproduce and fulfill its destiny. Similarly a carrot seed has a soul. It is the informational aspects that allow it to germinate, grow and differentiate into a mature carrot, and reproduce its kind by producing carrot seeds. Obviously, in the 2 examples above, the computer virus reproduces asexually while the carrot reproduces sexually. I’m sure that, in the near future, we will see much improved computer viruses that reproduce sexually and that can evolve as do living things.

To be specific, we believe that a static soul can be represented by information. We will use a simple mathematical notation; a superscript, i, to indicate an individual person and a subscript, t, to indicate a point in time. The static soul is just that information that defines the static soul of person, i , at time t. can be conveniently divided into three parts:

, The information that describes the accessible, external world.

, The information that defines how that brain-body processes Q.

, The information that is retained in and processed by that brain-body

The boundaries between W, P and Q are not precise.

It may be useful to compare these parts of a soul with corresponding parts of a computer system. W is like the environment that a computer is in. This includes connections to external networks such as the Internet. The computer might have video or audio input devices which enlarge W. P is like the computer hardware along with the operating system and various applications programs. Q is like my files in the computer. Things I have typed in or modified. Q includes pictures I may have downloaded from the Web, my correspondences, the state of games I am playing, etc. The function F is the computational engine, the hardware that actually produces the new state, time=t 1, from the old state, time=t.

When a program sets a parameter in the operating system, is that parameter part of the operating system or part of the program? One can think of it either way. With some exceptions, it is easy to see what should be in each of the three categories, W, P and Q. Occasionally, the preferred category may be decided somewhat arbitrarily. The breakdown of the informational constructs of a soul into the three classes, W, P and Q is a useful exercise, aiding one in developing a sensible model of the informational aspects of a soul.

The evolution of P (the acquisition of skills and useful know how) proceeds relatively faster in a child than in an adult. On the other hand, the evolution of Q (the application of skills and know how) can proceed relatively faster in adults.

Given two people, i and j, and have a lot in common. Just as everyone is normally born with 2 eyes, 2 ears, general bilateral symmetry with a few exceptions, much of the abode of the soul is similar from one person to another. However, one person may be an Olympic Gold Medallist at the 100 Meter dash, while another person may be a couch potato. From one person to another, and are as similar and as different as is the body of one person compared to another. If i and j are of the same age and sex and general physical condition, and would have more in common. If i and j are a pair of identical twins, and would have even more in common though there would still be differences.

What we call “brain-body” most others would simply call the brain. However, we consider it important to realize that thinking involves more than just the brain. The brain is only part of the nervous system. Our eyes are intimately connected to the visual cortex. We often have thoughts that cause a visceral reaction that is in turn communicated back to the brain. Whenever we think, we are in an environment; our body – our world. We almost never imagine the possibility of being in some really foreign kind of world. The possibilities as to what could be different are vast: a world could have a different spatial geometry and connectedness; it might not have the hierarchical structure (biology, chemistry, molecules, atoms, particles) of our physics.

Thus, the normal abode of the soul is not just the brain, not just what we are calling the “brain-body”, but also the combination of the brain-body and the environment. P is not the brain-body, but rather it is a precise informational model of how the brain-body-world processes information. P has two major components: generic and specific. The generic component involves that which is in common with our world (e.g. the laws of physics) and with essentially all other normal humans. In the computer analogy, the generic component is similar to the idea of a particular computer and operating system, such as in the Mac, or in a PC running Windows; it would include software packages such as MS Office. The specific information has to do with all the things that differentiate this person from other persons. This includes genetic differences along with the memories of a lifetime, the characteristics of personality, etc. In the computer analogy, the specific component is similar to what parameters and data are in the computer and how various files such as autoexec.bat, config.sys, win.ini, the Registry etc., are setup. Of course it also includes all files peculiar to that machine such as documents written by the user, records of email exchanges, digitized photos from the user’s camera, etc.

What this means is that P is the definition of a particular, complex interpreter (in the computer sense). In a computer, we may write a program in Java, or one of thousands of other computer languages or application development systems. An engine is needed to interpret what we write in order for a computer to carry out the actions that the programmer had in mind. The engine is either a kind of program called an interpreter, or it is the computer hardware. “Execution” is a good name for the action of the computer hardware directly executing the steps of a program. Sometimes, interpretation is preceded by compilation. This is a step where the program, written in a language optimized for the human process of writing the program, is translated into a language more suitable for execution on a particular computer. Additionally, all of the other software that will be needed during program execution must also be available in any host computer that hopes to run the program correctly. A compiler needs to know two things: first, the actions that are supposed to result as a consequence of what the programmer wrote, and second, how to get a particular computer to carry out those actions.

A start towards understanding information processes had to await the computer age. But just because the computer age is upon us does not mean we already have a full understanding as to what information is. What is true is that we now merely have a better understanding of what an information process is. Information processes are unusual from the point of view of physics. They don’t have the need of conventional kinds of physical dimensions. For example, a person can be described as having a certain amount of mass, normally measured as weight. A person has a nominal length, thought of as his or her height. A person can be described as a system that converts a certain amount of chemical energy into mechanical work and heat, normally thought of as having a rate of metabolism and often measured in calories/day.

From the point of view of physics, what we call our weight really is what we think of as our mass; it has dimensions M and is measured in Kilograms or perhaps in pounds. Height has dimension L and is measured in Meters or feet and inches. Time has dimension T and is measured in seconds. Energy has dimensions ML2/T2 and is measured in Joules, kilowatt-hours or Calories. Information processes, on the other hand, are not described by any of the current units or physical dimensions so far as we know. This means that 2 bits of information that interact in a logic element of a computer cannot now be understood in terms of amounts of Mass, Length or Time or any particular combination of such units. This is likely just a reflection of our current ignorance. Someday we may discover a unit of information that is closely related to some combination of units such as ML2/T, which happens to be angular momentum. In physics, the unit of angular momentum is called Ñ (Planck’s Constant Reduced). The 2 most fundamental constants of physics are the speed of light, c, and Ñ. What seems likely today, is that those 2 constants are involved in the most basic kinds of computer operations.

Of course such physical things as printed-paper, magnetic disks, brains or DNA can represent information. Information must ultimately have a physical means of its representation, however the information itself is independent of the means of its representation.

The ages old concept of a clear distinction between the physical parts of the body and the evanescent part, the human soul, turns out to be correct. The fact that the soul can be resident in a physical brain-body does not mean that the soul is physical in the physics sense of Mass, Length and Time. The soul is physical only in the sense that information is part of the world of physics. But physics has not yet finished putting “information” into the proper pigeonhole. Information is certainly subject to the laws of physics, but it is not physical in the sense that a machine is physical. A machine can be explained in its entirety as interacting components, each of which is covered by the units of Mass, Length and Time. For a machine, the choice of materials is important; you cannot make an anvil out of warm butter. Information has to do with the arrangement of things and the processes that result in the rearrangement of things. It is totally independent of what the things are made of. This point must not be obscured by the fact that, today, books are best printed with ink on paper and integrated circuits are best made out of silicon plus carefully chosen impurities. In principle, what is used to represent information is irrelevant to the information. Those who long ago thought to describe the soul as immaterial made a wise and prescient choice.


ПРАВИ САМУРАЈИ !!! МИ СМО СРПСКИ СМУРАЈИ ПОБЕДИЋЕМО ЗЛО, ЧАСТ, ЗНАЊЕ И ПОШТЕЊЕ, ЖИВОТ БЕЗ ЧАСТИ НЕМА СМИСЛА!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9HR7TTOReE


АКО СУ ОНИ ТОЛИКО ГЛУПИ КОЛИКО СМО ТЕК МИ!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0efLWdJWk4&feature=related

INTEKLEKT???http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu8b9c8__D8&feature=&p=97103E1185A620B4&index=0&playnext=1

ОВО ЈЕ СРПСКИ БРАНД ,А САДА ???????http://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbs=vid:1&&sa=X&psj=1&ei=Fh5DTdXMOIqa8QOnid0l&ved=0CC8QBSgA&q=TESLA%27S+GENIUS&spell=1&fp=867e4e474b188c89

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ДАЛИ СМО МИ СРБИ ГЛУПИ??? ИЛИ СМО ПРЕВИШЕ ДИВНИ И ФИНИ??? ДОЗВОЛИЛИ СМО ДА НАМА УПРАВЉАЈУ НАКАЗЕ!!! http://www.google.com/#q=PARALLEL+UNIVERSES+TESLA&hl=en&sa=X&prmd=ivns&source=univ&tbs=vid:1&tbo=u&psj=1&ei=hh9DTdSbGsrusgaovL2rDg&oi=video_result_group&ct=title&resnum=5&ved=0CEkQqwQwBA&fp=dded8f20a6bb9442

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ОВО СРПСКИ, ЗАОСТАКЛИ, СВЕТ МОРА ДА ВИДИ!!!http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&tbs=vid:1&q=NIKOLA+TESLA&aq=f&aqi=p-p1g9&aql=&oq=&psj=1&fp=867e4e474b188c89
ДЕБИЛИ НАМ НАПЛАЋУЈУ СТРУЈУ!!! А ЈА ПРОГРАМИРАМ ДУШУ БЕПЛАТНО!!!

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А МАЈМУНИ ТРАЖЕ НОВАЦ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKWPht3fU-o&feature=related

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!!Интелект побеђује!http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/apr/09/china-economic-international-leader

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ДАЛИ СМО РОБОТИ???http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/roboticexplorers/robots_like_people.html


БЕЗБОЛНО УНИШТАВАЊЕ СВЕТА!!! http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=08c_1243348599


РОБОТИ!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGxdgNJ_lZM

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ИСТИНАttp://www.chrismaser.com/truth.htm
 
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БИЋЕ ЈОШ ТОГА !!! http://www.srbijanet.rs/vesti/vesti-iz-zemlje/73403-sud-za-ljudska-prava-u-strazburu-razmatra-5000-tuzbi-protiv-srbije.html

А МОГЛО ЈЕ И БЕСПЛАТНО ДА ТО НАПРАВИ!!!!

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ИЗГЛЕД ПРОФЕСИОНАЛНИХ ПОРТАЛА ЗА ПОРЕЂЕЊЕ

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ОВО ЈЕ БИКЛО ПОТРЕБНО АЛИ НЕ И ДОВОЉНО. КРИВЦИ И ДАЉЕ ОСТАЈУ НЕКАЖЊЕНИ, А КО ЈЕ КРИВ ЗА ТО??? СВЕ СЕ СВОДИ НА КОНТРОЛУ ПРАВА И ПРАВДЕ. КОД НАС НЕ ПОСТОЈИ НИ ЈЕДНО НИ ДРУГО!!!!
http://www.pressonline.rs/sr/vesti/vesti_dana/story/149130/Tomica+Milosavljević+podneo+ostavku.html
Killing of Serb Prime Minister Djindjic: Possible Versions - English pravda.ru

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ПРАВНИЦИ СРПСКИ ПУЖЕВИ, КАКО ДОКАЗАТИ ПО ЊИМА "НЕДОКАЗИВО" http://www.naslovi.net/search.php?q=tu%C5%BEila%C5%A1tvo

НАУЧНИ ДОКАЗ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_evidence

ДОКАЗ И ИСТИНА http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:IymsFEH_iykJ:www.scs.carleton.ca/~bertossi/logic/material/tarski.pdf+material+proof+TRUTH&hl=en&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShMf5HuzxGKfGbrlsAD67wf9GEPGzUTuXdQ5N0DWJ6rwpn1aigzs6BmYVNuyCnVOeIljVbgtB1Yi6SRr6bkHa3hI0usZCtx4hjk3pWHDewxOXHFUMcdc-t1LeDfOmzqWAKT8xxP&sig=AHIEtbQp_1esjUdsjLNzfzP2gQov_6VQ1w

АНАЛИЗА СУПЕР ИСТИНЕ!!! http://espanol.video.yahoo.com/watch/319872/2123159

ЖРТВУЈУ НЕВИНЕ И ДИВНЕ ЉУДЕ, ДА БИ ПРИКРИЛИ СВОЈЕ НЕВЕРОВАТНО НЕЗНАЊЕ, СУЈЕТУ И ГЛУПОСТ!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndzHqFv9Mdo

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ЖРТВЕ ВЕРОВАЊА У "ИСТИНУ" СРПКЕ "МОРАЛНЕ" МЕДИЦИНСКЕ "НАУКЕ" ПОТРЕБНО ЈЕ УРАДИТИ СВЕ ДО КРАЈА А НЕ САМО ДА СЕ ЗАВРШИ НА ОСТАВЦИ ТОМИЦЕ МИЛОСАВЉЕВИЋА, КОЈИ "НИЈЕ МОГАО ДА ПОБЕДИ БОЛЕСНО ДРУШТВО" http://picasaweb.google.com/ralekv/Da?authkey=Gv1sRgCKitlOi-o-rfCQ#5541905902406078546
 
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ДА НАШИ ПРАВНИЦИ МАЛО РАЗМИСЛЕ О СВЕМУ, МИСАО ЈЕ КАРАКТЕРИСТИКА ЉУДСКОГ БИЋА
Justice: What's The Right Thing To Do? Episode 01 "THE MORAL SIDE OF MURDER"


YouTube - Justice: What's The Right Thing To Do? Episode 01 "THE MORAL SIDE OF MURDER"

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ПРАВА РЕАЛНОСТ И РЕАЛНО САГЛЕДАВАЊЕ ИСТИНЕ!!! http://www.spaceandmotion.com/mathematical-physics/logic-truth-reality.htm

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ДАЛИ СМО ЉУДИ ИЛИ МАЈМУНИ ПИТАЊЕ ЈЕ САД???
Mathematics is, I believe, the chief source of the belief in eternal and exact truth, as well as a sensible intelligible world. (Bertrand Russell)


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У УНИВЕРЗУМУ СЕ СВЕ СВОДИ НА ХАРМОНИЈУ, А НЕ НА ГЛУПОСТ ФОЛИРАЊЕ И ЛАЖИ !!! http://www.spaceandmotion.com/mathematical-physics/mathematics-music-waves-vibrating-space.htm

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ЦЕНА ИСТИНЕ !!! http://emperor.vwh.net/serbo-croatian/articles/s-cena2.htm

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Carevo novo odelo - Razotkrivanje la

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ИСТИНА http://online.wsj.com/video/mean-street-the-truth-about-europes-bailouts/9DC18403-1A30-4B10-A13B-ED622EDBAA11.html?mod=googlewsj

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ПОТРЕБА И ФОРМА http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:-DqLJZgXXAsJ:virgo.pravo.hr/tsr/pitanja2/TEORIJA%2520POTREBA.pdf+ZADOVOLJAVANJE+PRAVNE+FORME&hl=en&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESjb7YM8Yv_NKwCvK0FeVBlwJr_hUIZxJNZEINX85jJrRy9IMCE_-qoieOPzZAl7-M_7uVSxord66hsfB3v7mZt3LvxKcbrX5Y8p056qIXmJgdHB1LkT2dpBkZ6hbsyPQvlxj9mp&sig=AHIEtbTdYY9WobPFzjAAsxkpdJN785GCtA

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О САВРЕМЕНОЈ МЕДИЦИНИ!!! http://www.tedmed.com/videos

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ДА САМО НЕКЕ СТВАРИ НЕЗНАЛИЦЕ ПЕРЦИПИРАЈУ!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sVwoWyM4CNs

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НА КОЈИ НАЧИН УБЕДИТИ ЉУДЕ ШТА ЈЕ ШТА???
ВРЕМЕ ЈЕ ЗА ПРОМЕНЕ У ПЕРЦЕПЦИЈИ СТВАРНОСТИ И ЗНАЊА!!!

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linux ubuntu 10.10

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The Big Ol' Ubuntu Security Resource - IT Security
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ЛЕПО, БРЗО, БЕСПЛАТНО И СИГУРНО!!!
 
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ДО КАДА ЋУ СЕ БАВИТИ НЕЗНАЛИЦАМА??? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6CVj5IQkzk

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КО ГОД ИМА ПАРА ЗА БАЦАЊЕ, НЕКА КУПУЈЕ ШТА ХОЋЕ!!! ТО ЈЕ ПИТАЊЕ СЛОБОДНОГ ИЗБОРА http://konfygurator.com/komponente/?q=25


http://www.filebuzz.com/findsoftware/Freeware_Ubuntu/1.html


УБИТАЧНА СРПСКА КОМБИНАЦИЈА http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,5868458,00.html


ВОЉЕНА МОЈА ГОГО, СТАЛНО СЕ ПИТАМ САМО ЈЕДНО. КАКО СМО ТИ И ЈА, ПАМЕТНИ ЉУДИ, ОДЛУЧИЛИ И ОСТАЛИ ДА ЖИВИМО И УКАЖЕМО ПОВЕРЕЊЕ, ОВАКВИМ ДЕБИЛИМА!!! НЕВЕРОВАТНО АЛИ ИСТИНИТО... ПОБЕДИШЕ НАС НЕЗНАЛИЦЕ И УБИЦЕ СПСКЕ МЕДИЦИНЕ!!!!

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YouTube - Hamlet - To Be Or Not To Be - Laurence Olivier

YouTube - Roberta Flack - Killing Me Softly With His Song

ДАЛИ ЈЕ ОВО САН ИЛИ ЈАВА??? http://www.yurope.com/people/nena/Stihovi/Laza_Kostic/Medju_javom_i_medj_snom.html

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НЕЗНАЛИЦЕ СУ УБИЛЕ СРПСКУ КРЕАТИВНОСТ !!!!! http://www.ted.com/talks/ken_robinson_says_schools_kill_creativity.html

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ДО КАДА ЋЕ МЕ НЕЗНАЛИЦЕ И УБИЦЕ УЧИТИ ИСТИНИ??? ДОКАЗАЋУ ИСТИНУ 100%, А ОНДА СУ НАГРАБУСИЛИ!!!
ОРГАНИЗОВАЋУ ЕКИПУ ЗА ЛОВЦЕ НА ЛАЖИ И ПРЕВАРЕ И ПОБЕДИЋЕМО 100%. ЧУВАЈТЕ СЕ НЕЗНАЛИЦЕ И УБИЦЕ!!!
YouTube - Demon Hunter The Science Of Lies

ВЕЛИКИ БЕЛИ БАЛОН ЋЕ ЕКСПЛОДИРАТИ !!! 100% http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bga1CIj78Hw

НОРМАЛАН СВЕТ КОМУНИЦИРА, А МИ ??? http://www.bozzabench.com/News/tabid/60/ItemId/4071/Skype-pao-milioni-korisnika-ostalo-bez-komunikacije!.aspx
 
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СТАНДАРДИ ЗА МЕДИЦИНСКИ МЕНАЏМЕНТ, ДА НАМ НЕ СОЛЕ ПАМЕТ НЕЗНАЛИЦЕ И УБИЦЕ!!! http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:W_bV0I7v-jMJ:www.nmc-uk.org/Documents/Standards/nmcStandardsForMedicinesManagementBooklet.pdf+STANDARDS+IN+MEDICINE&hl=en&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShkmGuz2FZSjgfL6fI6caNW_g4FUDiUKRVbNdaGGEsH6Bvo7eIfEx2-wPClRYEJeSPi_O-i9nKuGTm4aOIqnZWqejpOCMuIunptc0mHq6Wb06lGD7zlG0XGZE3NABPUl7spi2H1&sig=AHIEtbQooejUEj4oPQYJoZPhUc1U59weVw

НЕ ЗАДОВОЉАВАМО НИ ЈЕДАН СВЕТСКИ СТАНДАРД!!!
ЖЕЛИМО У СВЕТ???
What future for fundamental standards of humanity?
Fundamental standards of humanity
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ДВОЈНА МЕРИЛА!!! http://www.vest.si/2010/07/21/ljudski-glas-ima-drzava-dvojna-merila-za-tajkune/

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ЉУДСКИ ПОНОС И ДОСТОЈАНСТВО !!! http://www.sustainablehistory.com/sustainable-history.html


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Sustainable history and the dignity of man


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Да незналице схвате неке ствари!!! http://fora.tv/2011/01/27/A_Conversation_with_William_J_Clinton#Clinton_Slams_Bachmanns_SOTU_Response

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Људи који превише знају!!!http://videoteka.novatv.hr/multimedia/ljudi-koji-previse-znaju.html

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Висока, средња и ниска правда!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High,_middle_and_low_justice

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НОВОСТИ ИЗ ПРАВДЕ!!! http://www.google.com/#q=low+and+justice&hl=en&prmd=ivnsu&source=univ&tbs=nws:1&tbo=u&psj=1&ei=QJ1JTcSAKZGWOvez2A4&sa=X&oi=news_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CEcQqAIwAw&fp=2dcb6979649afcb0

The Canadian Press: Hungary's PM defends controversial media law, claims it meets European standards

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CIVICUS Home
Low health standards impeding indigenous rights &#8211 Ban

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Сваки би медицински радник и "стручњак" требао да уради анализу самог себе!!! ПОГЛЕДАЈТЕ НЕПИСМЕНЕ НЕЗНАЛИЦЕ И УБИЦЕ!!! http://ecorner.stanford.edu/authorMaterialInfo.html?mid=1767

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2007 TED Prize winner E.O. Wilson on TEDTalks


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ДА БИ НАШИ БЕЗВЕЗНИ "СТРУЧЊАЦИ" СХВАТИЛИ КОЛИКО СУ ЗАОСТАЛИ!!! ТО ШТО ОНИ ТВРДЕ ДА ЈЕ НАУКА ЈЕ ЈАКО ТУЖНО И РУЖНО!!! http://informatics.cms.si.umich.edu/node/28


ПРИМИТИВНО!!! http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/probably-the-most-awful-soul-destroying-thing-ive-ever-seen/5548

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Цео универзум је комуникација и хармонија!!"СТРУЧЊАЦИ" ПРОФЕСОРИ, ДОКТОРИ, НЕЗНАЛИЦЕ БАВЕ СЕ МЕДИЦИНОМ, А НЕЗНАЈУ НИШТА!!! http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/10/101021103115.htm

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ШТА ЈОШ ПРИКАЗАТИ НЕЗНАЛИЦАМА И УБИЦАМА!!! http://www.sciencedaily.com/videos/2008/0905-jellyfish_fight_terrorists.htm

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21 ВЕК??? У СРБИЈИ 19 ТИ http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/02/110202102748.htm

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ШТА САМ ЈА ТРАЖИО МЕЂУ ВАМА??? ПА ВИ НЕЗНАТЕ НИШТА!!! http://www.mrcomp.com/research-services.html?gclid=CPuf__Kx6qYCFZIn3wodSRVI2A

МОЗАК И ПАМЕТ
ScienceDaily: Mind & Brain Articles

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А ОНИ СВОЈИМ НЕЗНАЊЕМ УБИЈАЈУ НАШЕ НАЈМЛИЈЕ И КАЖУ ДА НИСУ КРИВИ. СРАМНО!!!! http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/02/070227105129.htm

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НАЈОПАСНИЈИ ЗА ЗДРАВЉЕ СРПСКЕ НАЦИЈЕ СУ ЛЕКАРИ НЕЗНАЛИЦЕ И УБИЦЕ!!!!
СВЕ НАС СУ ОНИ "БЕЗГРЕШНО" УБИЛИ
Picasa Web Albums - Ranko Todorovic - da

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ОБУКА ЗА "СТРУЧЊАКЕ" КОЈИ УБУИЈАЈУ НЕЗНАЊЕМ!!! БАКТЕРИЈЕ И ВИРУСИ И ДЕЈСТВО НА ИМУНИ СИСТЕМ

Bacteria and Viruses

Your body is a multi-cellular organism made up of perhaps 100 trillion cells. The cells in your body are fairly complicated machines. Each one has a nucleus, energy production equipment, etc. Bacteria are single-celled organisms that are much simpler. For example, they have no nucleus. They are perhaps 1/100th the size of a human cell and might measure 1 micrometer long. Bacteria are completely independent organisms able to eat and reproduce - they are sort of like fish swimming in the ocean of your body. Under the right conditions bacteria reproduce very quickly: One bacteria divides into two separate bacteria perhaps once every 20 or 30 minutes. At that rate, one bacteria can become millions in just a few hours.

A virus is a different breed altogether. A virus is not really alive. A virus particle is nothing but a fragment of DNA in a protective coat. The virus comes in contact with a cell, attaches itself to the cell wall and injects its DNA (and perhaps a few enzymes) into the cell. The DNA uses the machinery inside the living cell to reproduce new virus particles. Eventually the hijacked cell dies and bursts, freeing the new virus particles; or the viral particles may bud off of the cell so it remains alive. In either case, the cell is a factory for the virus.

The job of your immune system is to protect your body from these infections.
The immune system protects you in three different ways:

1. It creates a barrier that prevents bacteria and viruses from entering your body.
2. If a bacteria or virus does get into the body, the immune system tries to detect and eliminate it before it can make itself at home and reproduce.
3. If the virus or bacteria is able to reproduce and start causing problems, your immune system is in charge of eliminating it.

The immune system also has several other important jobs. For example, your immune system can detect cancer in early stages and eliminate it in many cases.

ВИРУСИ СЕ БАВЕ КОМУНИКАЦИЈОНОМ ПРЕВАРОМ НАШЕГ ИМУНОГ СИСТЕМА, СЛИЧНО НАШИМ "СТРУЧЊАЦИМА" КОЈИ УБИЈАЈУ НАШЕ НАЈМИЛИЈЕ НЕЗНАЊЕМ И ГЛУПОШЋУ, А ДОКТОРИ, ПРОФЕСОРИ И МАСА ДРУГИХ ГЛУПОСТИ......
Feline immunodeficiency virus decreases cell-cell communication and mitochondrial membrane potential.
 
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ЈА САМ ЗА ЊЕГА. ПРАВИ ЧОВЕК ЗА ПРАВО МЕСТО, ДА РАШЧИСТИ НЕМОРАЛ У ЗДРАВСТВУ!!! http://www.mondo.rs/s196603/Srbija/Zoran_Stankovic_novi_ministar_zdravlja.html

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КОНАЧНО ДОЛАЗИ, ЕКСПЕРТ ЧОВЕК КОЈИ ЗНА!!!


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РАДНИЦИ ПОСТАЈУ СВЕТСКИ ЛИДЕРИ, А НЕКАДАШЊИ ЛИДЕРИ???

China: A World Economic Leader? - Research and Read Books, Journals, Articles at Questia Online Library

U.S., China Leaders To Focus On Economic Frictions : NPR

Уништена база штрајкује надградња


Press Online :: Staje cela Srbija: Posle prosvetara, štrajk najavili policija, lekari, zaposleni u kulturi

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ДРАГИ НАШ ТОМИЦА ЈЕ УВЕК ВОЛЕО ДА СЕ ХВАЛИ. ПА И САДА, КАДА ЈЕ ДАО ОСТАВКУ ПРИЧА КАКО ЈЕ МНОГО УЧИНИО ЗА СРПСКО ЗДРАВСТАВО. А НЕ ПОМИЊЕ САМО ЈЕДНУ СТВАР, ДА ЈЕ ЗА ВРЕМЕ ЊЕГОВОГ МАНДАТА, (НА БУДАК) ИЗГУБИЛО ЖИВОТ ОД "ЛЕКАРСКЕ ГРЕШКЕ" НАЈМАЊЕ 30000 ЉУДИ!!!! И НИКО НИЈЕ КРИВ!!!http://www.blic.rs/stara_arhiva/tema/76847/Ministar-se-hvali-pacijenti-kukaju

TABLOID :: LIST PROTIV MAFIJE :: Internet izdanje

ПОБЕДИЋЕ САВЕСТ!!! http://www.kurir-info.rs/vesti/ode-ministar-tomica-72183.php

ШТА ЈОШ ОБЈАСНИТИ "ПРОФЕСОРИМА, ДОКТОРИМА" НЕЗНАЛИЦАМА И УБИЦАМА НАШИХ НАЈМИЛИЈИХ??? НАШИ МЛАДИ СУ СВЕ РЕКЛИ. КРАТКО, ЕГЗАКТНО И ЈАСНО!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwqz62U4tVI&feature=related

YouTube - Marchelo Ponos Lyrics

sloboda.jpg ШТА НАМ ЈЕ ДРУГО ПРЕОСТАЛО???

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ПРЕДАХ ЗА ДИВНИ СРПСКИ НАРОД И ДУХ. И МИ ИМАМО МОЗАК, А НЕ САМО ОНИ!!!



ДАЛИ НАМ ЈЕ ПОТРЕБАН МОЗАК??? ИЛИ САМО ЗАКОН, БЕЗ ВЕЗЕ, СА НАУКОМ, ПРИРОДОМ, МАТЕМАТИКОМ, НАУКОМ???
ДАЛИ НЕПИСМЕНИ ПРАВНИЦИ ВЛАДАЈУ СВЕТОМ; ЧАСТ ИЗУЗЕЦИМА!!!
Living without a Brain

Is your brain really necessary?

Secrets of Mind and Reality

СВЕ СЕ СВОДИ НА ОВО!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophi%C3%A6_Naturalis_Principia_Mathematica

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ЈЕДНОГ ЛЕПОГ ДАНА КАДА ПОБЕДИ МОЈЕ ДОБРО, ОВАКО ЋЕ ПИСАТИ И ЗА НАШЕ "МОРАЛНЕ" ДОКТОРЕ, КОЈИ СУ НЕЗНАЛИЦЕ И УБИЦЕ!!! http://dijaspora.wordpress.com/2010/08/05/miklos-horti-nekaznjeni-zlocinac/
ТОЛИКУ НЕОДГОВОРНОСТ, БЕЗОСЕЋАЈНОСТ И САМОЉУБЉЕ, НИСАМ МОГАО НИ ДА ЗАМИСЛИМ. ЈА САМ ЧОВЕК КОЈИ ВОЛИ ЉУДЕ И ИСТИНУ, И НЕ РАЗУМЕМ КАКО МОЖЕ НЕКО ДА ТВРДИ ДА ЈЕ У ПРАВУ, АКО УБИЈА ЉУДЕ. ТО ЗНАЧИ ДА ЈЕ ЊИХОВ СОФТВЕР У МОЗГУ НЕИСПРАВАН. А КО ИМ ЈЕ ДАО ДИПЛМЕ И ЛИЦЕНЦЕ??? ВРЛО РУЖНО, СРАМНО И ТУЖНО
ПОШТО ЈЕ ДУША ЉУДСКИ СОФТВЕР, ОНИ СУ ЉУДИ СА ТРЕЋЕРАЗРЕДНИМ СОФТВЕРОМ, КО ОНДА У ЊИХ ДА ИМА ПОВЕРЕЊЕ!!!
ОНИ СУ БЕЗДУШНИ ЉУДИ, БЕЗ ЗНАЊА, ОСЕЋАЈА ОДГОВОРНОСТИ И МОРАЛА, СРАМНО!!!


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ТЕХНОЛОШКО ГУШЕЊЕ БОЛЕСНЕ МЕДИЦИНЕ!!!! ЗА МОЈЕГ УМРЛОГ АНЂЕЛА!!!



У КОЈОЈ ТУНГУЖИЈИ МИ ЖИВИМО, УБИЈАЈУ НАС И НАПЛАЋУЈУ НАМ ПОРЕЗЕ НА ГЛУПОСТ. А СВЕТ СЕ ВОЗИ У ТЕСЛИ!!!
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Tesla Cars: The 2009 Roadster

ЗА СРПСКЕ ЛЕКАРЕ ЛИЦЕНЦА ПО ПРИНЦИПУ "ПОКАЖИ ШТА ЗНАШ", А НЕ ПОСЛЕ ДА ЗБОГ НЕЗНАЛИЦА СВИ ЛАЖУ И ДАЈУ ОСТАВКЕ http://opstinasurcin.org.rs/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=397&Itemid=1


БОЛЕСНИЦИ УМИРУ СВОЈОМ ГРЕШКОМ И ЗБОГ ВЕЛИКЕ ЖУДЊЕ ЗА СМРЋУ???
ТАДА КАКО КАЖЕ НАША ДРУГАРИЦА МИЊА "НИШТА ЈИЈ НИЈЕ ИШЛО НА РУКУ", МОЈ КОМЕНТАР: "НАРОЧИТИ НЕЗНАЊЕ И ГЛУПОСТ ХИРУРГА З. СТОЈАНОВИЋА, КОЈИ НЕЗНА ОСНОВНЕ СТВАРИ ИЗ МЕДИЦИНЕ", А ГОСПОДА ИЗ КЛИНИЧКОГ ЦЕНТРА У КРАГУЈЕВЦУ ЈОШ СУ ВЕЋЕ НЕЗНАЛИЦЕ, А КАД ИМ СЕ КАЖЕ ИСТИНА ЉУТЕ СЕ !!!!

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ЖУДЊА ЗА СМРЋУ http://www.borislavpekic.com/2009/06/sustina-demokratije.html

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ШТРАЈКУЈЕ ПОЛИЦИЈА, ШКОЛСТВО, А УСКОРО ЋЕ И ЗДРАВСТВО, САМО ГЛАДНИ У СРБИЈИ ЋУТЕ И ТРПЕ ШТА ИХ ЈЕ СНАШЛО!!!
YouTube - starvation
НАШЛИ ПА ЗАШЛИ, НЕКО ТРАЖИ ВИШЕ НЕГО ШТО МУ ТРЕБА!!!
YouTube - The Global Situation of Children in Poverty

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ОВО ЈЕ НАЈБИТНИЈЕ http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&site=&source=hp&q=SARADNJA+U+LECENJU&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&psj=1&fp=2dcb6979649afcb0
ЈА САРАЂУЈЕМ СА КОЛЕГАМА ИЗ ЦЕЛОГ СВЕТА И ПОМАЖЕМ ИМ, А ОНИ МЕНИ ПО ПОТРЕБИ. ЗАТО ЈЕ УБУНТУ НАЈБОЉИ!!!

А НЕ КАО ДОКТОРИ СВИ ЋУТЕ И ИЗИГРАВАЈУ ГЕНИЈАЛЦЕ, А УБИЈАЈУ ЉУДЕ, ЈА НЕ ОСТАВЉАМ МАШИНУ ДОК НЕ РЕШИМ ПРОБЛЕМ, А ОНИ УНИШТЕ ЖИВОТ И КАЖУ ДА НИСУ КРИВИ. ТО ЈЕ НЕВЕРОВАТАН НЕМОРАЛ И СРАМОТА. ШТО ЈЕ НАЈГОРЕ ШТИТЕ ИХ КОЛЕГЕ, ТАКО ДА СУ СВИ САДА ПОДЈЕДНАКИ. СВЕ САМЕ НЕЗНАЛИЦЕ И УБИЦЕ!!!!
ЧАСТ И МОРАЛ!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt5Y5WjCtAU


Suština demokratije.
Dnevnik, utorak, 23. avgust 1983. godine.
Pravednost ili funkcionalnost.

Suština demokratije je u pravdi nije u funkcionalnosti.

Prema tome svaki argument protivu proporcionalnog predstavništva koje se zasniva na pragmatičnosti ili funkcionalnosti onog drugog neproporcionalnog, promašuje temu.

Najpre treba zadovoljiti pravdu, a tek posle razmišljati o tome kako da ona najefikasnije funkcioniše. Ako se od funkcije pođe, otvaraju se vrata svakoj nepravdi. Кazneni sistem trebalo menjati i napustiti načelo pravde i uzeti i ovde načelo funkcionalnosti. Umesto da se delikti kažnjavaju prema stepenu i vrsti krivice, sve krivce bi jednostavno trebalo pomlatiti, jer je to očigledno za jednu državu najefikasnije rešenje.
Slepa odbrana neproporcionalnog predstavništva, odnosno britanskog sistema, je nesvesna žudnja za jednopartijskim sistemom, večnom vladom jedne partije.

Ona postaje svesna kad torijevci misle na svoju partiju, a laburisti na svoju, na prirodnu vladu Engleske, kako kažu laburisti i na istu prirodnu vladu Engleske kako kažu torijevci, naravno prvi na laburističku vladu, drugi na torijevsku vladu.

Sreda, 24. avgust 1983. godine.
Žudnja za smrću vrste. (Povodom Atlantisa.)
Praskozorne misli.


ЗАШТО НЕМОРАЛНЕ НЕЗНАЛИЦЕ СТУДИРАЈУ МЕДИЦИНУ???? http://www.kurir-info.rs/vesti/ko-je-kriv-za-smrt-dece-71082.php
Picasa Web Albums - Ranko Todorovic - da
https://doc-0c-2g-docs.googleuserco...6734178&hash=qjchk60mg2o64qcs7alnrdfp9vv1sib6

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СВИ ВОЛЕ ДА ПРИЧАЈУ О ЗАКОНУ И ПРАВДИ, А НЕЗНАЈУ НИ ШТА ЈЕ ТО, ШТО ЈЕ НАЈГОРЕ НЕЗНА НИ НАШЕ СУДСТВО!!!
ПРАВДА БЕЗ ИСТИНЕ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxTRV5RG5p8
ЧЕМУ ОВО СЛУЖИ ???? https://docs.google.com/present/edit?id=0ATj0870jhDN2ZGN0ajdzcnNfMTY0MzJjYzIzazJnMg&hl=en

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G r i ž a s a v e s t i je složena psihološka pojava koja se sastoji od izvesnog broja emocija kao što su osećanje
stida zbog učinjenog prekršaja, osećanje neodredjenog straha zbog neodredjenih posledica koje će nastupiti,strepnja,
osećanje gadjenja zbog učinjenog prekršaja, osećanje prezira i samoosude, bola, potištenosti, nemira, ljutnje
● Kao vrsta unutrašnje kazne ima ulogu u procesu usvajanja vrednosnog sistema.

Cilj i načini moralnog vaspitanja


● Cilj moralnog vaspitanja u modernom društvu nije da se moralna pravila nauče i u svesti održavaju pamćenjem, nego
da se obrazuje moralno pozitivan ljudski karakter odnosno spontan način postupanja koji odgovara zreloj moralnosti

● U praksi vaspitanja značajno je da roditelji i vaspitači usvoje načela humane etike. Sopstvenim ponašanjem i primerom najbolje se utiče na svaki proces vaspitanja, posebno moralnog vaspitanja.

● U procesu moralnog vaspitanja važno je stvoriti atmosferu slobode i humanih odnosa. Time se postiže da mlada osoba postepeno i bez straha od autoriteta usvoji norme koje služe njegovim dugotrajnim potrebama a ne samo trenutnim.

S U P E R E G O (NAD-JA, SAVEST)

Nije dovoljno imati savest, potrebno je da Vas ona i peče

● Osnovna funkcija Superega je inhibicija nagonske aktivnosti. On kontroliše, meri, procenjuje, dozvoljava, odredjuje ali obavlja i funkcije odobravanja, pohvala, ljubavi. Njegova skala aktivnosti je od kazne i mržnje do pohvale i ljubavi.

● Pod kapom Superega je i stvaranje osećaja krivice

Odnos Ega (svesno Ja) i Superega (Nad-Ja, savest)

● U novijoj psihoanalitičkoj literaturi sve se više pažnje posvećuje svesnom Egu a ne samo Superegu kao činiocu moralnosti i posredniku prilikom prenošenja kulturnih uticaja i zakonitosti. Složenost moralnog ponašanja ne može se svesti samo na dejstvo Superega, jer u izgradnji moralnih načela učestvuju i neke funkcije Ega.

● Uloga Ega ogleda se u tome što je za razvoj moralnosti značajno da svesno Ja ima dobre odnose sa unutrašnjim objektima koji su činioci savesti.

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МАТЕМАТИЧКИ МОДЕЛ ИСТИНЕ, ЗА ПРАВНИКЕ, И ЛЕКАРЕ НЕЗНАЛИЦЕ, КОЈИ ИЗМИШЉАЈУ ИСТИНУ!!! http://www.sarajevo-x.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=80193&start=225

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ТРЕНУТАК ИСТИНЕ!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mklb_LJ74fY

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ЕТИКА ВЕШТАЧКЕ ИНТЕЛИГЕНЦИЈЕ!!!
 
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Sa neizrecivim bolom zbog tragicnog ishoda jedne kako je doktor Stanic sa Beoklinike tvrdio, rutinske operacije, dok cekamo da saznamo sta je uzrok smrti nase ljubljene Jeke mi iz razlicitih novina citamo sta govore kljucni ljudi koji jos ne znaju sta se desilo, mada vec pocinju da se provlace svakojaka opravdanja za sve njih. A ko ce znati ako takozvani‘’strucnjaci’’ kao sto je Ministar zdravlja I Direktor I vlasnik privatne Beoklinike koji je sa anesteziologom bez licence radio operaciju jos ne znaju. I gde radi taj isti anesteziolog ali sa lincencom to jos neznamo.
Nadam se da ce ovo pomoci u rasvetljavanju svega sto se dogodilo I to je na moju ogromnu nesrecu jedino sto mogu da ucinim za svoju preminulu cerku.

Sto se tice Ministra zdravlja cinjenice su sledece:

1. Prvi put nam se javio tek jedan dan posle Jekine smrti, a svi smo znali da je General Jevtic sa VMA od 09.06. pa nadalje svakodnevno bio informisan o Jekinom stanju I verovatno informisao i Ministra zdravlja. I pored toga mi smo dva dana pre Jekine smrti poslali licno Ministru mejl da nam pomogne oko Jeke a I zvanicno overeno pismo predato je Ministarstvu zdravlja... Nismo pitali za cenu , sve sto imamo I nemamo bili smo spremni da damo da spasimo njen zivot. To su svi znali od prvog dana kada je smestena na VMA.

2. On, tj Ministar zdravlja, se bavi statistikom kada je nasa Jeka u pitanju I kaze da se na 100 000 pacijenata desi jedan takav slucaj, mada jos uvek nema zvanicnog izvestaja o stvarnom razlogu zasto je nasa Jeka pala u komu posle rutinske operacije. Za njega je nasa Jeka tek 100 001 stanovnik ove zemlje ali za nas je Jelica jedinstvena osoba sa bezbroj vrlina: 25 aprila ove godine je diplomirala sa 10 na uciteljskom fakultetu u Jagodini. Ona je najmladji clan nase porodice – nasa mezimica. Sve smo se trudili da joj pruzimo a ona trostruko nama uzvracala: svojom paznjom, neznoscu, dobrotom, plemenitoscu, sa izrazitoim osecajem za pravdu, postenje. Nikad nikog nije povredila a nju su ubili.

3. U novinama pise da je Ministar izjavio da je slucaj nase Jeke mozda I nesrecan slucaj. Mi smo do danas mislili a i danas mislimo da je nesrecan slucaj kada neko slucajno nastrada u udesu ili ako se oklizne ili vec nesto slicno tome.
4. U sredu 8.07.2010 kada samo preuzeli zvanican Izvestaj ‘’Nezavisne’’ lekarske komisije koja je sastavljena od 4 clana procitali smo ocigledne neistine i kada sam pozvala Ministra da pitam kako to da mene niko nista nije pitao a ja sam bila svedok svega, on je izrazio najdublje saucesce i rekao mi da se desi tek tako da se neko ne probudi iz anestezije. Ja sam mu rekla da mi njegovo saucesce ne treba i neka se bavi statistikom kada se njegovo dete ne probudi iz anestezije i zavrsi smrcu a da o mom detetu govori da duznim postovanjem. Odmah sutradan su nas sa VMA pozvali da uzmemo obdukcioni nalaz i kada smo stigli rekli su nam da je Ministar ponovo organizovao novu lekarsku komisiju????
5. Dana 12.07.2010 moja starija cerka Milica i ja smo otisle do palate pravde da proverimo u Visem javnom tuzilastvu da li postuak pokrenut medjutim niti je registrovano da je Jelica preminula niti je poslat obdukcioni nalaz. Milica je odmah pozvala Ministra i kroz plac ga pitala o cemu se radi – pa kad su nam vec napravili ogromnu ranu, zasto cackaju po njoj? Rekla mu je i da je zivela u Londonu i da ce poslati pismo Tajmsu, na sta je odgovorio da nismo dotle dosli i da ce odmah poslati sve u Vise javno tuzilastvo. Nakon par sati njegova sekretarica nam je javila da su u medjuvremenu poslali svu dokumentaciju tom tuzilastvu. Posle dva dana smo saznali da je nas slucaj zaveden pod KTR, a ne kao KT. Zamislite, i zamenik javnog tuzioca je imenovan da vodi taj slucaj, ali je na godisnjem odmoru do 9. avgusta.

Sto se tice vlasnika privatne klinike iz Beograda dr Miodraga Stanica on nam je rekao vec 10.06.2010 da ce se ubiti ako se Jelici nesto bude desilo. Na VMA je dosao tek kada sam ga ja preklinjala da dodje sa anesteziologom da kaze kolegama sa VMA sta su uradili kako bi strucnjaci sa VMA mogli Jeki da pomognu. On je dosao i nas poducavao sta treba da pitamo doktore, a sam nije mogao da se pomeri sa klupe u hitnoj pomoci. 0d 11.06 do 13.06 nama su se pridruzili i roditelji Jekinog momka Vlade - Radmila i Mica Tripkovic. Radmila je radila u Jagodini kao instrumentalka pa mu je postavljala pitanje sta u Jeki davali na Beoklinici – njegov odgovor je bio ‘’sve sto treba’’. Od 11.06 Stanica vise nismo videli. Posle toga jos jednom sam ga zvala i preklinjala da kaze doktorima sa VMA sta su pogresili i da doktori na VMA pomognu Jeki i da mu nista necemo. On je i dalje tvrdio da su sve uradili kako treba. Posle me je on jednom pozvao da pita da li imamo Jelicinu krvnu sliku, kada smo rekli da nije ni trazio on je na to odgovorio da za tu vrstu operacije i ne treba, ali da mu damo neku sveziju krvnu sliku ako imamo. Narvano da nismo imali, ni dali. Dan posle Jekine sahrane stigao nam je telegram saucesca od njega. Neshvatljivo je da on u novinama govori kako je prestrogo to sto mu je klinika zatvorena na 6 meseci I kako je 65 ljudi ostalo bez posla. Da li ima hrabrosti da pomisli da jos nekom Beoklinika sa sumljivim anesteziologom oduzme zivot? Neshvatljivo je i to da smo Milica i ja 9.07.2010 bili na Beoklinici u Maglajskoj ulici i zatekli zenu koja sredjuje finansije.

Ja sam svedok svega sto se desavalo tog dana i kasnije:
09.06.2010 u 13 casova je bila zakazana ta kobna operacija. Ja sam Jeku dovezla I bila sa njom u ogromnoj cekaonici. U 12:50 su je pozvali da potpise za intervenciju I odveli je. Ja sam ostala da je cekam . U 13:05 je u zgradu klinike usao dr Stanic I otisao na sprat gde su Jeku vec odveli. Svakih 5 min sam gledala na sat da cujem njene korake, da se Jeka pojavi pa da idemo kuci. Vec me je hvatala neka strepnja I taman kada sam htela oko 14: 30 da nesto pitam cula sam sanitet koji se zaustavio ispred klinike. U zgradu su utrcala sa nosilima u panici dva zdravstvena radnika. Skrenuli su levo prema delu gde je moje dete odvedeno I zaglavili se na vratima. Dalje nisu mogli. Ogromna cekaonica, uska vrata I uske stepenice koje vode ka operacionoj Sali. Ja sam vrisnula, I trazila da znam sta je sa mojim detetom. Oni sa klinike su me tesili i davali tablete za smirenje koje nisam htela da uzmem, i rekli da ce se Jeka brzo probuditi I da je prebace na VMA da samo prespava. Ja sam molila da to sto pre urade a oni su mi rekli da to mora da bude bezbedan transport. Naravno da sam I ja bila za to da bude bezbedno. Tek posle 1 sata Jeku su izneli a mene predhodno odveli u jednu malu prostoriju, desno od ulaza gde je sedeo doktor sa stakama kojima se pomagao kada hoda. Taj doktor je sedeo u toj prostoriji i za pultom kod medicinskih sestara u prizemlju i pre Jekine operacija kao i tokom operacije sve do 13 i 20 kada je otisao na sprat gde je moje dete bilo. Sisao je ponovo u prizemlje tek kada je sanitet stigao i odveo mene u malu prostoriju desno od ulaza. Hrabrio me da je sve u redu, rekao mi je da se tu u Beoklinici zatekao i jedan anesteziolog sa VMA i da ce sve biti u redu . Ko je taj anesteziolog sa VMA? Niko ga vise ne spominje? I rekao mi da cu i ja da odem do VMA sa dr Stanicem, ali da on priprema potrebnu dokumentaciju za Jeku. Istrcala sam iz te prostorije kada su Jeku vec izneli i ugledala zaprepasceno lice dr Stanica, izgledao je kao da je slogiran. Pitala sam sta je sa mojim detetom, samo me je gledao i otisao da sredjuje dokumentaciju I to je trajalo jos 1 sat – kakva je to dokumentacija koju je toliko dugo pripremao ja tek sada vidim.... Na VMA mi niko nije dao da udjem, ali Dr Stanic je sa svojim anesteziologom doveo jednog, kako oni kazu, od glavnih neurofiziologa, dr Tihomira Ilica koji mi je rekao da je sa Jekom sve u redu, da ona dise svojim plucima ali da su joj ukljucili jos malo kiseonika zato sto je soba zagusljiva I da ce je namerno drzati pod anestezijom neko vreme, pa ce posle ona ustati I mi idemo kuci. U medjuvremenu je stigao I Jekin momak Vlada pa smo zvali urgentnu kliniku i pitali kad mozemo da vidimo Jeku. Rekli su nam da mozemo odmah ali samo 5 minuta da budemo kraj nje I mi smo usli. Bila je na aparatima. To je bilo oko 21 cas.Celu noc smo cekali da nam jave da se probudila. Jeki su radili skener I EEG narednog dana. Opet su dr Stanic I njegov anesteziolog doveli neurofiziologa dr Tihomira Ilica sa VMA i on je rekao da je Jeka blizu svesti. 11.06.2010 su nam se pridruzili i Vladini roditelji . Niko drugi osim neurofiziologa sa VMA, dr Ilica nije nam davao nikakve druge informacije,osim da je stanje nase Jeke tesko.

Ja nisam zdravstveni radnik, ni pravnik I ne znam kakva je kazna za ovakva nedela , ali cu se boriti da budu kaznjeni najvecom mogucom. To radim u ime moje Jeke i za sve buduce generacije, za moju stariju cerku Milicu, za Jekinog momka Vladu, za sve njene sjajne drugarice I drugove, za sve koji su neopisivo voleli nasu Jeku, kao i za one koji je nisu poznavali a mogu sticajem raznih okolnosti dopasti u ruke ovakvih i slicnih ‘strucnjaka’

Neko je otvorio na fejsbuku: SVI KOJI SU POZNAVALI NASU DRAGU JELICU PANIC I ZATVORIMO BEO KLINIKU. Mi to nismo uradili, od bola ne znamo sta cemo sa sobom ali VELIKO HVALA toj zlatnoj decici I svim dobrim ljudima za toliko saosecanje.
MOLIM MINISTRA ZDRAVLJA DA PROCITA NESTO O JELICI – TO JE BILA SJAJNA OSOBA I ONA NIJE STATISTICKI PODATAK .

I sada se mi pitamo
1.Da li je moguce da se jos nezna ko je kriv za nasu Jeku?
2.Ako dr Stanic tvrdi da je Jeka u stabilnom stanju prebacena na VMA da li to znaci da je VMA po njegovom misljenju kriv?
3.Zasto ‘’Nezavisna ‘’ Inspekcija koja bi trebalo da se bavi utvrdjivanjem cinjenica nista do sada nije pitala mene, koja sam svedok sta se stvarno dogadjalo. Njihov izvestaj smo dobili tek 8.07.2010 i pun je neistinih podataka. Licno smo ga dobili na nase insistiranje uz izgovor sluzbenice da nam nisu poslali taj Izvestaj zato sto nisu imali adresu. Sutradan me je zvala nacelnica sa tog istog odeljenja i rekla da su to radili po sluzbenoj duznosti i da nisu imali ni obavezu da nam posalju izvestaj……………. A da li je ta komisija nesto pitala osoblje iz saniteta?
4.Cula sam da se radi o ‘’nezavisnoj komisiji’’ pa je moje pitanje od koga je nezavisna a od koga je zavisna ta komisija?
5.Zasto samo inicijali anestesiologa - U VECINI NOVINA, a ne puno ime i prezime? Ime mu je B. Stamenkovic i nije maloletan. Ali neznamo kako on to moze slobodno da se seta po VMA dok dr Stanic ne sme da se pomeri sa klupe u cekaonici u Hitnoj sluzbi. Licno nama (5 svedoka imamo) je Stamenkovic 10. 6 2010 doneo nalaze skenera i EEG sa VMA i citao nam da su rezultati skenera dobri ali i da je EEG MANJE VISE DOBAR , a odmah je doveo i dr Ilica koji nam je u hodniku rekao da je Jeka blizu svesti ( 5 svedoka) i vec strada Ilic je otisao na odmor.
6.Zasto mi nemamo izvetaj aneseziologa sa Beoklinike a dr Stanic kaze da je taj izvestaj predao VMA?
7.I na kraju jos jedno pitanje za Ministra: Zasto kada je vec znao da je nasoj Jeki svakog dana bilo sve losije na VMA, zasto nije nista preduzeo nego je cekao da umre? Mozda bi joj pomogli (na pr u Nemackoj, Svajcarskoj…) a sigurna sam da bi doktori iz tih zemalja odmah znali sta je nasu Jeku dovelo u stanje DUBOKE KOME – a i nas Ministar zdravlja bi ponesto naucio.

Za sve sto sam napisala postoji jos po najmanje 2 svedoka. Pa ko ovde koga stiti i zasto?.
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Put do BEOKLINIKE - KLINIKE SMRTI:

Svi znamo da ima lekara tj. ginekologa koji rade i u drzavnoj bolnici i u privatnim ordinacijama i to im je ‘’tezga’’. Pa to im niko i ne spori – to im zakon dozvoljava. Tako je nasa Jeka zbog glupe kampanje na TV-u (kampanja o pregledu kako ginekoloskom tako i pregledu dojki, gde poznate voditeljke upozoravaju zensku populaciju da sve mi mozemo imati rak i td.) iako nije imala nikakve smetnje otisla sa svojom drugaricom u drzavnu ginekolosku ambulantu u Paracinu i kako niko nije imao da ih primi tamo one su istog dana 19.05.2010 otisle u privatnu kliniku Euro medic u Paracinu. Tu kliniku drzi supruga ponzato dr Slobodana Kojica cije ime je dr Jasna Kojic. On radi I u drzavnoj bolnici a koliko znam on je Nacelnik drzavne ginekoloske bolnice a takodje on radi i u privatnoj ginekoloskoj klinici koju drzi njegova supruga. Ona radi samo u toj svojoj privatnoj klinici. Jelica mi se javila i rekla da ce njih dve otici kod dr S. Kojica i posto taj doktor Kojic vazi za jednog od boljih lekara, ja nisam imala nista protiv da odu tamo. Pa gde devojke da idu kada je u Paracinu tako kako je. Tokom njihovog visecasovnog boravka u toj privatnoj klinici u Paracinu, zvale smo je moja starija cerka Milica i ja neprekidno ali je bila velika guzva tog dana I tek u 22 casa nasa Jeka je sa drugaricom izasla sa pregleda i na nesrecu nije je pregledao Dr Slobodan vec njegova supruga Jasna. Devojke su bile isprepadane. Svasta im je napricala, a Jeki da ima ranicu na grlicu materica, da je ta ranica ogromna, da je preko celog grlica, da to nije ranica nego ranetina, da je njena snaja, odnosno snaja dr Jasne umrla od raka grlica materice . Mazila je Jeku po ruci I rekla je da se Jeka preplasila, tesila ju je I rekla je da dodje sa svojom majkom i da ce joj tada uzeti isecak i posle 10 dana kada stignu rezultati videce da li je rezultat u redu, pa ako nema rak onda ce joj oni radititi laparaskopiju I deo po deo skidati I da ce to trajati 1 sat. Jeku sam hrabrila da ranica nije nista strasno i da sam I ja to imala i svaka druga zena da to ima i da je Ista ta doktorka to meni rekla pre desetak godina istu tu pricu sa njenom snajom uz zaplakivanje. Ali pre 10 godina oni nisu radili laporaskopiju i tada je bilo dovoljno da se uradi Papa test i ako je II grupa to je tada znacilo da je sve u redu pa su meni radili TK. Verujte da su i mene tada isprepadali i da sam pomislila, kada ta dva ginekologa nisu spasili tu ‘’snaju’’ kako ce tek nas. Sada vidim da je to bila prazna prica i volela bih da znam koliko puta je Jasna tu istu pricu ispricala drugim zenama. Kada je to pricala meni pre 10 godina, tu je bio i njen muz dr Slobodan. Ni on je nije ucutkao – valjda im je to nacin da u tandemu prepadnu pacijenta. On je tada cutao a ona mene sazaljevala, mazila po ruci i oplakivala ‘’snaju’’ koja je umrla od raka grlica materice.

Vec sutradan sam Jeki zakazala pregled kod jedne druge doktorke, takodje u Paracinu, da je pregleda kao I moju stariju cerku. Ista ta doktorka radi I u drzavnoj I u privatnoj klinici, pa sam zakazala da ih primi u privatnoj klinici jer je to jedino moguce. Sutradan uvece Jeku nije mogla da pregleda ali joj je usmeno rekla da ako ima ranicu da mora da se uzme isecak pa da se vidi da li je rak, a ako nije…- sve to je cula moja starija cerka Milica a naravno i Jelica, koja se jos vise prepala. Rekla je: ‘’Evo dve doktorke su mi isto rekle’’ . Ime te doktorke necu pominjati, prepoznace se sama.

I tako mi stigosmo do Beograda. Razmisljali smo I o Onkoloskoj klinici ali koji lekar iz Paracina ce dati uput? Pa niko, ONI TREBAJU DA SE BOGATE NA TUDJOJ MUCI.

Pre prvog pregleda Jekinog na Beoklinici, ja sam se doktoru Stanicu predstavila, rekla mu da sam ja Jekina majka, da Jeka nije sama dosla, rekla mu po cijoj preporuci smo dosle i da cu sacekati u cekaonici. Rekao mi je da mogu sacekati i u ordinaciji ali ja nisam htela da uznemiravam. Posle prvog Jekinog pregleda u Beoklinici sam ponovo otisla da pitam dr Stanica sta misli. Znala sam da dobar lekar moze odmah videti ako je nesto zaista strasno. On mi je rekao da je u pitanju bezopasna ranica, ali da ce za svaki slucaj uraditi Papa test i kada se potvrdi da je II grupa da ce je laserski ukloniti ranicu. Odahnule smo obe. Stvarno posle dva dana potvrdilo se da je Papa II , zakazali su lasersku intervenciju i samo su nam rekli da ne sme Jeka nista da jede i pije. Otisle smo potpuno rasterecene, vazno je bilo da dete nema rak. Sve smo poslusali sto su rekli ali anestezija je bila kobna. Sigurna sam da je za dr Stanica kao i njegovog anesteziologa najbolje sto mogu da urade, da priznaju svoju gresku , da odsluze najstrozu kaznu koja je po zakonu, pa da posle nastave da zive ako to mogu. Savestan covek nebi mogao – ubiti zdravu devojku od 25 godina pa to je najveci greh koji postoji. Nama u kuci zivot bez Jeke je postao pakao. Ubili su nas a dozivotno ostavili u tuzi brojne ljude koji su Jeku neizmerno voleli........


Moje dete ja ne mogu vratiti ali MOLIM prozvane ginekologe iz Parcina:
1. NEKA U SVOJ RACUN ZA PREGLED UKLJUCE I CENU KOLIKO KOSTA TO DA DA NE PREPADAJU OMLADINU BEZ RAZLOGA– RODITELJI CE SIGURNO TO PLATITI

I za informaciju prozvanim ‘’ginekolozima’’ iz Paracina:

1. Toliko su isprepadali Jeku da je posle pregleda u Paracinu neutesno plakala a bila je potpuno zdrava devojka
2. Tek nakon prvog pregleda u Beoklinici se smirila....... Na nesrecu nakon laserske intervencije a prilikom prijema na VMA Jeka je bila u dubokoj komi i umesto da bude BEO ispala je SMRTNA KLINIKA.
3. Biopsijom je potvrdjeno da nije imala rak, da je ginekoloski nalaz uredan
4.Jasna Kojic je prva karika u lancu koji nas je doveo do pakla........Dok smo zivi necemo joj oprostiti.

5.I na kraju Jeke vise nema..............
 
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